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Founder interviews · Episode 07

Why Gyms Won't Buy Your Fitness App

The playbookBuild the thing gyms can trust, then go in through the people they already buy fromRead it

Vor founder Max Cotton on selling to gyms, building an exercise engine without LLMs, and bringing PureGym founder Peter Roberts onto his board.

In this episode

  • Why gyms struggle to trust LLM-generated workouts
  • The $40,000 token bill and repetitive workout plans
  • How Peter Roberts joined Vor’s board and helped fill its funding round
  • The move from online coaching to B2B software
  • Max’s views on fitness trends, hiring and company building

Timestamps

  • 0:00 Cold open
  • 0:48 A new format: the people building the future of health
  • 1:34 What Vor is, and the one thing it does
  • 3:08 Another Round to Vor: two pivots and a cost of living crisis
  • 7:06 Why ChatGPT workouts are hard to trust (the lawyer test)
  • 8:52 The $40,000 tokens story
  • 10:48 Enjoyable, effective, safe: the Venn diagram
  • 11:29 A superior product doesn't win by itself
  • 16:02 How PureGym founder Peter Roberts joined the board
  • 21:24 Anchor names: how one investor filled the round
  • 25:21 Going big from day one
  • 26:53 The problem with gym apps
  • 30:46 Selling to three audiences at once
  • 33:40 The team: the PT who became Head of Product, and the CTO behind the engine
  • 38:16 Quickfire: what health startups are getting wrong
  • 40:39 Underrated: education and discovery
  • 41:54 Best move, biggest regret
  • 45:05 The MMA years: losses, ultramarathons and 87.1 miles
  • 50:01 Wrap-up

About Max Cotton

Max Cotton founded Vor, an exercise programming engine for fitness businesses. He previously founded online coaching company Another Round and competed professionally in MMA.

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Disclaimers

  • AI-generated exercise programming should complement, not replace, qualified coaching advice, especially for beginners or anyone with injuries or medical conditions.

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The frameworks and playbooks behind the fastest growing companies in health, fitness and wellbeing.